Bug 2:
They didn't remap the memory properly resulting in not all 4GB fully utilised. By rights if they are not going to utilise Intel HD Graphics they should have allocated 0MB to the Intel Graphics DVMT(or let user decide by enabling the menu in EFI setup menu).
I got my hands on one of the newer Acer Laptop: Acer Aspire 4740G
This is a rather cheap laptop with rather good specifications.
I won't be posting any picture of this laptop as you can google how it looks yourself.
To me performance is a more vital information source.
The specifications are as follows:
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CPU Properties: | ||||
CPU Type | 2x , 2133 MHz | |||
Instruction Set | x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2 | |||
Original Clock | 2133 MHz | |||
L2 Cache | 256 KB (Asynchronous) | |||
Multi CPU (HyperThreading, Actual No. of Cores:2): | ||||
CPU #1 | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz, 2128 MHz | |||
CPU #2 | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz, 2128 MHz | |||
CPU #3 | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz, 2128 MHz | |||
CPU #4 | Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz, 2128 MHz |
Video Adapter Properties: | ||||
Device Description | NVIDIA GeForce 310M | |||
Adapter String | GeForce 310M | |||
BIOS String | Version 70.18.3f.0.a | |||
Chip Type | GeForce 310M | |||
DAC Type | Integrated RAMDAC | |||
Driver Date | 16/3/2010 | |||
Driver Version | 8.17.11.9716 - nVIDIA ForceWare 197.16 | |||
Driver Provider | NVIDIA | |||
Memory Size | 512 MB |
Monitor Properties: | ||||
Monitor Name | Generic PnP Monitor [NoDB] | |||
Monitor ID | AUO183C | |||
Manufacturer | B140XW01 V8 | |||
Manufacture Date | Week 1 / 2009 | |||
Serial Number | None | |||
Max. Visible Display Size | 31 cm x 17 cm (13.9") | |||
Picture Aspect Ratio | 17:9 | |||
Gamma | 2.20 | |||
DPMS Mode Support | None |
Harddisk Controller: | ||||
Driver Description | Intel(R) 5 Series 4 Port SATA AHCI Controller | |||
Driver Date | 3/3/2010 | |||
Driver Version | 9.6.0.1014 | |||
Driver Provider | Intel | |||
INF File | oem8.inf |
Windows Experience Index
Note: The harddisk is a upgraded WD BEKT 7200RPM 16MB Buffer Drive the default 5K500 Hitachi Drive doesn't give as much performance
The New Arrandale CPU i330 M330 (the lowest end)
The Throttling States is as follows:
Lowest Frequency: 1200MHZ Multiplier: x9.0
(In between Multiplier changes from x9.0 to x16.0 depending on CPU Usage thus conserving power,however sometimes it hits x7.0 Multiplier could be a bug,
QPI is fixed and no more Front Side Bus)
Maximium Frequency: 2100MHZ Multiplier: x16.0
It is Physically a Dual Core CPU with 2 Hyperthreading Cores so 4 Logical Cores in Total
Graphics SubSystem
Note:
There maybe some errors regarding PhysX. Official Statement about PhysX is only 32 CUDA Cores GPUs are supported however G 310M only has 16 CUDA Cores. But I have tested AS4740G and it DOES support PhysX using the latest Nvidia 257.21 driver but I wouldn't count on the performance.
GPU is soldered to the board as VGA BIOS/Firmware cannot be read by GPUZ the normal way. Also Soldered GPUs can reduce the pricing of the laptop therefore this can explain the cheap price of Acer Aspire 4740G.
Below is a picture of the GPU and CPU
Note GPU is soldered onto the mainboard therefore NOT UPGRADEABLE.
CPU is a PGA Socket hence UPGRADEABLE.
Although the laptop has Intel HD Graphics onboard the CPU (see the 2 die above?), it is not activated or detected, you can pray that Acer will release a BIOS, no sorry EFI Firmware that will unlock Optimus or Switchable Graphics BUT from my past experience with Acer chances are as good as striking lottery...
New:
Below is a picture of the GPU and CPU
Note GPU is soldered onto the mainboard therefore NOT UPGRADEABLE.
CPU is a PGA Socket hence UPGRADEABLE.
Although the laptop has Intel HD Graphics onboard the CPU (see the 2 die above?), it is not activated or detected, you can pray that Acer will release a BIOS, no sorry EFI Firmware that will unlock Optimus or Switchable Graphics BUT from my past experience with Acer chances are as good as striking lottery...
New:
IRONLAKE-MOBILEd.0.Ä.C.0...................BIOS_DATA_BLOCK ˜...”.þê..d....1914Intel(R)Ironlake Mobile PCI Accelerated SVGA BIOS..Build Number: 1914 PC 14.34 10/15/2009 11:37:51..DECOMPILATION OR DISASSEMBLY PROHIBITED..............CoI found the above VGA ROM (IRONLAKE is the Intel Code Name for Intel HD Graphics onboard the Intel Core iX CPU) data inside the BIOS dump which indicate Acer Aspire 4740G CAN ACTUALLY SUPPORT switchable except Acer disabled the ability in the EFI/BIOS.
Temperature Dissipation Test
This is a new Test I devised to measure how well the unit dissipate heat it can produce at maximium performance:
My opinion on this result is that this Acer Aspire 4740G handles heat pretty decently.
Considering that Acer uses Thermal pad on the GPU this is a very good result.
I estimate if the thermal pad is replaced by a Copper Shim temperature will fall by a good 10 degrees.
Only real Tests like the one I conducted can accurately determine if a particular model potentially has thermal issues, not old grandmother stories like how my Acer from 10 years ago overheat therefore all Acer overheat(This is a flawed argument by the way).
Anyway a computer that cannot dissipate the heat it produces is as good as a man who can't wipe his own backside (Acer Aspire 4530), so this laptop does pretty well.
My opinion on this result is that this Acer Aspire 4740G handles heat pretty decently.
Considering that Acer uses Thermal pad on the GPU this is a very good result.
I estimate if the thermal pad is replaced by a Copper Shim temperature will fall by a good 10 degrees.
Only real Tests like the one I conducted can accurately determine if a particular model potentially has thermal issues, not old grandmother stories like how my Acer from 10 years ago overheat therefore all Acer overheat(This is a flawed argument by the way).
Anyway a computer that cannot dissipate the heat it produces is as good as a man who can't wipe his own backside (Acer Aspire 4530), so this laptop does pretty well.
Kombustor rate of temperature rise graph:
3 PowerMizer States are as shown below:
CUDA Capabilities as shown below:
It seems to indicates a decent CUDA Device.
So there you go all the information you need to consider this laptop for usage.
If you know how to reinstall an Operating System, always do a clean install for better performance.
It seems to indicates a decent CUDA Device.
So there you go all the information you need to consider this laptop for usage.
If you know how to reinstall an Operating System, always do a clean install for better performance.
Why, because if you go Windows Hardware Developer Central there is a report that stated over 80% of OEM Imaged Computers has lousier performance than a Clean Windows Installation.
I believe this is due to OEM Crap pre-installed in the computers.
Remember to run idle task and defragment the harddisk so AFTER installing all drivers to ensure optimal performance.
If you want to do a clean install you can use the list below as a driver checklist.
Or click here for links to latest greatest driver.
If you want to do a clean install you can use the list below as a driver checklist.
Or click here for links to latest greatest driver.
- Intel Chipset Driver
- Intel Rapid Storage Driver
- Intel Management Engine
- Nvidia Graphics Driver
- Nvidia High Definition Audio Driver
- Realtek High Definition Audio Driver
- Acer Launch Manager
- BroadCom Bluetooth Driver
- Finger Print Driver (Available from Windows Updates)
- SuYin/Chicony WebCam Driver
- Conexant Modem Driver
- Synaptics/ALP Touchpad Driver
- Intel Management Engine Controller
- BroadCom NetLink LAN Driver
- Atheros/Intel Wireless Driver
- Realtek Card Reader Driver
- Acer Smart Power Manager & Optical Driver Power Manager
Conclusion about whats great and what sucks
What's Great:
1)This laptop although armed with the lowest end Core i3 Processor can even outmuscle any AMD Turion II Mobile Processor so you might want to reconsider buying any Turion II laptops.
It says something when you find a Turion II M 660 Flagship Processor can't beat the lowest end Intel Core i3 330M Processor. It says even more when the Turion II equiped laptop (4540G) cost more than this laptop (4740G).
2)The Audio is fantastic: Subwoofer + Bass on a 14 inch laptop (5.1 Surround Sound See Below)
3)Solid hinge from older Gemstone.
4)Cheap price for a Intel/Nvidia combo laptop.
Remember Nvidia Always has better drivers than ATi on both Linux and Windows.
5)Awesome heat vent much better than previous designs.
6)Easy to access bottom panel for fast component upgrades
7)Ultra Slient Exhaust Fan even when spinning at Full Speed.
What Sucks
1)The touchpad looks silly because when you use 2 finger scroll, the etches for the Touchpad 1 Finger slide seems pointless
2)Sound is not so good maybe because the drivers have not yet been stably corrected.
3)Fingerprint Magnet Monitor bezel.
4)WebCam driver image quality not quite there, needs better drivers.
What's Controversial
1)The new 14 inch form factor has lower height but broader breath, personally I like it as this gives it a more compact look like a 13 inch which give better mobility but the total screen area is conserved.
2)Keyboard needs some getting use to (Sort of VAIO/Macbook style keyboard I am too used to the old Acer Style)
3)Battery life is around 3 hrs on the default battery but I know it is possible to buy 12 Cell Batteries on Ebay to equip this laptop.
4)RW-Everything reported this laptop can support up to 16GB after BIOS data analysis but only 2 Physical Slots are available so it should take a Max of 8GB only.
Bottomline:
I don't think anyone can find an Arrandale Based Laptop with decent Nvidia Graphics for the same price Acer placed on this laptop so yea this is it.
If you already own this laptop you might be interested in Optimizing the System Disk & Touchpad Configuration and installing OpenSUSE on AS4740
Changing the BackUp Button to open other applications (Using Zune as an Example)
Note: This will only work if you install the LauchManager from Acer Aspire 4540G.
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Compal\LManager\Settings\Buttons\Backup]
"Command"="C:\\Program Files\\Zune\\Zune.exe"
"Command Type"="1"
"Label"="Zune"
"Remote Code"="C008"
"Description"="Zune Media Player"
"Configable"="1"
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What's Great:
1)This laptop although armed with the lowest end Core i3 Processor can even outmuscle any AMD Turion II Mobile Processor so you might want to reconsider buying any Turion II laptops.
It says something when you find a Turion II M 660 Flagship Processor can't beat the lowest end Intel Core i3 330M Processor. It says even more when the Turion II equiped laptop (4540G) cost more than this laptop (4740G).
2)The Audio is fantastic: Subwoofer + Bass on a 14 inch laptop (5.1 Surround Sound See Below)
3)Solid hinge from older Gemstone.
4)Cheap price for a Intel/Nvidia combo laptop.
Remember Nvidia Always has better drivers than ATi on both Linux and Windows.
5)Awesome heat vent much better than previous designs.
6)Easy to access bottom panel for fast component upgrades
7)Ultra Slient Exhaust Fan even when spinning at Full Speed.
What Sucks
1)The touchpad looks silly because when you use 2 finger scroll, the etches for the Touchpad 1 Finger slide seems pointless
2)Sound is not so good maybe because the drivers have not yet been stably corrected.
3)Fingerprint Magnet Monitor bezel.
4)WebCam driver image quality not quite there, needs better drivers.
What's Controversial
1)The new 14 inch form factor has lower height but broader breath, personally I like it as this gives it a more compact look like a 13 inch which give better mobility but the total screen area is conserved.
2)Keyboard needs some getting use to (Sort of VAIO/Macbook style keyboard I am too used to the old Acer Style)
3)Battery life is around 3 hrs on the default battery but I know it is possible to buy 12 Cell Batteries on Ebay to equip this laptop.
4)RW-Everything reported this laptop can support up to 16GB after BIOS data analysis but only 2 Physical Slots are available so it should take a Max of 8GB only.
Bottomline:
I don't think anyone can find an Arrandale Based Laptop with decent Nvidia Graphics for the same price Acer placed on this laptop so yea this is it.
If you already own this laptop you might be interested in Optimizing the System Disk & Touchpad Configuration and installing OpenSUSE on AS4740
Changing the BackUp Button to open other applications (Using Zune as an Example)
Note: This will only work if you install the LauchManager from Acer Aspire 4540G.
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Compal\LManager\Settings\Buttons\Backup]
"Command"="C:\\Program Files\\Zune\\Zune.exe"
"Command Type"="1"
"Label"="Zune"
"Remote Code"="C008"
"Description"="Zune Media Player"
"Configable"="1"
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Good review, thanks. One question, is the 310M good enough for todays game?
ReplyDeleteWhat games do you play?
ReplyDeleteExcellent for old games medium to low on crysis I think
if it can handle crysis than should be no problem for dirt2, assasins 2 i think...thanks for replying...
ReplyDeleteRemember it should be low settings.
ReplyDeleteAnyway this laptop's graphics is still overclockable should be able to get a few extra hundred points easily.
Thermal output is optimal to justify overclockability.
hi, just bought one for my wife for the sole purpose of playing flash games on facebook (farmville, etc). problem is, whenever we try to play on full screen, the monitor goes black out and the computer hangs (or so it looks like it). is this some sort of bug? can you please advise on what we can do? thanks!
ReplyDeleteCan you try updating the graphics driver direct from Nvidia download site?
ReplyDeleteYou should also try reinstalling flash.
As always I always recommend clean installing Windows 7 instead of depending on the poorly done Acer Disk Image.
Try to remove the crapware that comes with a lot of Acer Laptops.
As I always do clean installs with my laptop I didn't experience the issue you face.
any update on the memory remapping?
ReplyDeleteI will update when the issues are resolved.
ReplyDeleteI added an additional 2gig from my 4740g so its now supposedly 3gig but it says here only 2.49 is usable. thats 17% of wasted memory! any news on the fix for this?
ReplyDeleteMake sure you are on 64bit OS first.
ReplyDeleteI'm currently using a genuine Windows 7 32-bit OS. aren't 32-bit operating systems capable of properly supporting 4Gb?
ReplyDeleteNo, although it is originally capable of doing so, Microsoft capped the limit to 3GB userspace and 1GB reserved to system due to "driver" issues so now to obtain the full addressing capability you have to have a 64 bit OS. If you include any Graphic adapters behaviour of system memory stealing you get even less.
ReplyDeletemy 4740G with 4 gb ram does randomly hang while playing full screen facebook game.. I updated the nvidia driver but still hang at times. Each time it hangs,it produced a tone from the speaker and alt-crtl delete wouldnt work, so i have to press the on/off button to restart it.. I'm worried in a long run my computer will suffer..any good advise?
ReplyDeleteDo a clean install as shown here.
ReplyDeleteMake sure all the drivers I listed in the driver check-list in the review are installed.
I don't know how they deployed the image.
ReplyDeleteFor AS4740G the i3 and i5/i7 are different.
i5 comes with Turbo Boost which requires a driver while i3 doesn't.
If they happen to deploy the same disk image to different machine configurations it is possible that this could be the cause of glitches.
how to upgrade the cpu from core i3 to core i7..?
ReplyDeletehow and where to get it..?
how to upgrade the cpu..?
ReplyDeletewhere to get it..?
how much is the core i7 or core i5 processor price to upgrade..?
ebay.
ReplyDeleteYou can find it there but prices are steep.
Currently not worth it IMO.
i just bought mine about 3mos ago. at first, it's not that hot... but now i think its overheating!!! it is NOT FOR YOUR LAP CUZ IT WILL COOK IT. I DUNNO IF THERE'S SOMTHING WRONG WITH MY LAPTOP BUT I FEEL LIKE IT WILL COOK THE POWER ADAPTOR SOON LIKE WHAT MY OLD ACER DID TO THE POWER ADAPTOR.
ReplyDeleteIs this guess work or have you actually gotten the temperature that it is overheating? Also check the fans, any laptop WILL overheat if you jam the fans with dust, and laptops do not suddenly overheat if it is prone to overheating conditions will show within the first week of intensive usage.
ReplyDelete@admin, i guess im gonna have to send this back. i bought a fan for it. now it's not overheating. so i think there's a problem with the fan.
ReplyDeletejust fyi, acer has been released the updated bios 1.08 (dated 12-07-2010) and 1.09 (dated 13-07-2010), available in the "service & support" section @ acer's official website,
ReplyDelete... and ...
there is still no update for the missing RAM issue -- i think we have to wait for the release of bios 2.0 perhaps .... :(